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Cleanzymes vs VitalZyme?

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angelabergen



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:19 pm Post subject: Cleanzymes vs VitalZyme? Reply with quote

I'm interested in the CleanZymes product I found on this site. I currently take VitalZyme X, which I love, but its really xpensive. Does anyone know how this product compares?
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joel



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:18 pm Post subject: Cleanzymes vs VitalZyme? Reply with quote

Hi Angela. I'll take a stab brief stab here.

In my opinion, Cleanzymes compare very well, if not go quite a bit beyond the product you mentioned. 3 main reasons come to mind.

Protease activity: part of the rational for using enzymes is their activity on proteins and helping to keep the blood free of undigested protein. In fact, that's the big pitch for VitalzymeX over regular VitalZymes - better protease activity. If we look at how to address protease in the best way possible, the first problem is a lot of people can't handle bromelain or papaine. They tend to inflame the gut. (we use them as meat tenderizers). Instead Cleanzymes specifically target actual protease enzymes for the entire ph range of the gi tract. PH acts like a on/off switch for enzymatic activity. If you don't specifically address this, then you only get partial enzyme activity. In short, Cleanzymes works across the entire PH range from 2 to 10. With Bromelain and Papaine doing the work, you only get a PH range from 4 to 7

Second is how Cleanzymes address carbs. A lot of enzymatic issues come from poor digestion of different types of sugars. If you look at the label on CleanZymes, the number of carb enzymes is huge. They really address the full spectrum and you don't see that in other products, particuarly the one you mentioned.

Finally, I would throw out the inclusion of lysozome. Lysozome helps to keep the internal cell volume clear of debris. This is important because as you get older, enzymatic activity drops off, you get more junk inside the cell, which increases the concentration of potassium and alters the internal PH inside the cell. When this happens, a number of related events tend to occur, non of them really very good.

I could go on, but you get the gist. Its really a much more powerful and targeted approach to enzyme supplementation.


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angelabergen



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 12:25 am Post subject: Cleanzymes vs VitalZyme? Reply with quote

What does that mean in English?
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joel



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 3:09 am Post subject: cleanzymes vs VitalZyme? Reply with quote

lol. Sorry.

In English, my opinion is that CleanZymes work better on every front. But call me biased. Compare labels. It really gives you a much better idea.
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kerryischill



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:06 am Post subject: cleanzymes vs VitalZyme? Reply with quote

What about eating raw? Doesn't that supply all the enzymes we need?
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joel



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:29 am Post subject: cleanzymes vs VitalZyme? Reply with quote

Really good point. Without a doubt you get more enzymatic activity from raw foods than cooked.

One thing that seems to happen with age, the cell wall gets less permeable. This results in changing ph inside the cell. A consequence is the organelles within the cell that make enzymes tend to die off. So there is an arguement that enzyme production declines with age, and supplementation mitigates the age related consequences of decline in enzyme production. You can argue either side of that debate. For myself I tend to lean towards aging as well as possible.

I think the anti-inflammatory benefits of serratia peptidase are so well established that you can probably make a pretty good case for enzyme supplementation just off that alone.
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kerryischill



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 2:40 am Post subject: Cleanzymes vs VitalZyme? Reply with quote

Well I'm still under 40 by a few years. So do I benefit from enzymes or should I just wait until I'm older and try to eat mostly raw?
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zzzjoy



Joined: 09 May 2008
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 3:09 pm Post subject: Re: cleanzymes vs VitalZyme? Reply with quote

joel wrote:
Really good point. Without a doubt you get more enzymatic activity from raw foods than cooked.

One thing that seems to happen with age, the cell wall gets less permeable. This results in changing ph inside the cell. A consequence is the organelles within the cell that make enzymes tend to die off. So there is an arguement that enzyme production declines with age, and supplementation mitigates the age related consequences of decline in enzyme production. You can argue either side of that debate. For myself I tend to lean towards aging as well as possible.

I think the anti-inflammatory benefits of serratia peptidase are so well established that you can probably make a pretty good case for enzyme supplementation just off that alone.


I'd never heard that the cell wall gets less permeable as you age.
Is there a way to compensate for that?
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PhdtoBe09



Joined: 10 May 2008
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 5:54 pm Post subject: Cell Wall Permeability Reply with quote

Don't eat fried food.
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